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Wait for the mueller report and i understand that but seems like outsourcing of a constitutional duty that is just fundamentally there there's. >> there is a thinking process but shouldn't forstall their investigation and there is no reason they have to wait until the mueller report is out to begin investigating all sorts of things, much more openly than they have. to liz' point, the context of impeachment and putting in a narrative of what happened -- what did the president do? is he lying about now? so -- >> right. >> i think one of the key things to start out with is you don't have to commi...

Never mention the violation of any statute. >> why not? why that choice? >> we don't want to be bound by what is in the criminal law. >> it's a completely different proceeding? >> not only the proceeding but the idea is an impeachable offense is an agreesoegregious f power. >> that's the deep constituti constitutional question. the first president to be impeached was about how he talked about congress and how he lied literally about his rhetoric. thank you both. >> thank you. >> i should mention our podcast has great episodes about the questions we're talking about. for instance, talk to me ab...