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hearing takes new turns. the january 6 committee accusing donald trump of scamming his supporters out of $250 million. laying 0 out the case that trump solicited money from backers by using lies as a fundraising tool. adding that he sent up to 25 emails a day, soliciting donations for illegal funds that simply didn't exist. but is it potentially criminal and will attorney general merrick garland pursue or prosecute it as such? those are the key questions emerging from the hearings overall. and there seems to be a new rift emerging from the january 6 committee itself on the very sub...

>> you think they'll do anything? >> you know, i'm not -- >> because, michael steel, what i found out, and mika wanted me to bring this up in the middle of the script, we find out that donald trump the grifter, he's always agrift. he teases us on sunday. raises $1.5 million, "oh, they're about to arrest me." send me money. send me money. he wants to be in cuffs because he wants to raise more money. what do you and i always tell people, for six years, it's all about the money. >> thank you. thank you. the thing that kills me about all of this, joe, is that people just absolutely freak the hell ...

>> john, do the people who donated care? when you confront it with the fact that all of this money was essentially going to all of these other things, if they actually knew that, would they say, well, that's okay, i thought it was x, y is z? i don't know that the victims cared that this whole thing was agrift? >> do they care? >> at the end of the day, the victim doesn't have to complain. but as a practical matter, if there are no victims and people's credit cards were charged, not save america funds but something else. that's where the devil gets into the details. >> people are saying fleece ...

This is what has been happening under the former administration. he said, you know, when i took this case, i was hired by the first lawyers -- i am not going to use their names -- they wanted to use kyle for a cause and something that i think was inappropriate. i don't represent causes. he said that to you. i represent clients. and the only thing that ended up mattering to me was whether he was found not guilty or not. and then, he says -- the reporter asks him, is that what kyle wants? and then, he answers i believe that is what he wants. but then, you know, then -- then, you know, kyle is go...