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Process i simply don't buy. jon: when will we find out? >> i think what dean phillips is saying, he's not the only one who said this. mark meadows, the chairman of the freedom caucus has been in some of these behind closed door depositions. the republicans are participating in this. on the one hand they are saying it's out of the public view, but there doesn't seem to be any question but the republicans have been invited to participate in this and are mounting a defense of the president's behavior presumably in these meetings. when will we find out? it seems politicallies though mrs. pelosi wa...

Hard to fault attorney general holder for that reason because it's the policy and-- >> it's the law. >> they tell him what to do. but highlights again how silly this whole sequester he debate is. rather than taking the easy stuff, stuff you can cut and no one is going to feel it and say you know what, maybe we'll make the guy drive out to the air force base. >> greta: 20 minutes out to andrews. >> a couple minutes more rather than do easy things like that, we'll do senseless government expenditures. >> greta: and i guess that's sort of arose when 9/11 happened we never want to be out of touch ...