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With sanctions. >> moving assets from this particular bank to another bank in china, are they -- >> if we find other activity, we will sanction them, no one is off limits. >> that is steve manuchin talking about sanctions against north korea. the treasury department hoping to maximize pressure until they abandon their nuclear and ballistic missile programs. they want to cut off elicit financin financing. we want to go back and bring in our panel. elise jordan, msnbc political analyst, and former senior advisor for senior rand paul. also back with us, aiesha from reuter's. the republicans are n...

That is not an idea that mitch mcconnell is considering. bringing the republicans around is not going to be easy. >> the american public does not like this bill. most of them like obama care and they want to keep it. should i take vice president pence on capitol hill as a sign of them saying no, we're not waivering? >> it's a sign they're not waivering, that is absolutely right. not only was he on capitol hill last night, he informs ohio touting the benefits of the health care bill, but they know that there are going to be real challenges to getting this passed, i think the briefing is about t...

Term in senate? she's a freshman member of the senate right now. takes a long time to build up seniority, to have a chairmanship or anything like that. if she's blocked from running for president, given the outsized role in american politics right now, can she be happy in the senate? >> i think she can. remember, she's filling ted kennedy's seat. she doesn't have any history yet, but it's easy seeing her be the populist voice in the senate who remains there, who becomes head of the senate banking committee, let's say, who pushes the party to the left in every way possible, like aiesha said. i ...

Office was. so i would bust in, and pretend like i was the ceo. and i would put my feet up on the desk. >> you would play out -- >> oh, play it out. >> in your mind, ceo, you would be the ceo. >> reverend, for hours, yes. yes. so i hit that intercom button. i said, aiesha -- will you bring me some coffee and doughnuts and the daily paper. so i would pretend aiesha would come on in. bring me the day's paper and the doughnuts and everything. and i was pretending like i was bossing people around. and here we are, 35 years later or so. >> and aiesha does bring the coffee. >> yeah, that's right. so...

What the catholic church is doing? this is just the beginning really? >> everyone is using social media and will use it fundamentally social media is a conversation and the pulpit is a speech. so any time that someone of authority tries to use kind of co-op social media, they better learn they are in the middle of something and they are not there in a position to dictate terms to the audience. >> not surprising the catholic church is getting into this as we move forward. we are 2013 right now. to you, aiesha, what is your headline? >> battling for america's soul is my headline. the conversatio...