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Get right something we never anticipated or specifically trained for, and being in the open ocean would be a much more challenging situation, but over water in general, it's featureless terrain where depth perception is difficult, descending without engine thrust, much steeper and rapidly than a virtual landing on a runway where you can make a more gradual approach. it would be a very challenging thing to do but it's possible theoretically possible. >> i went back to your audio from 2009 u.s. airways audio, and one of the things that struck me was that you were in constant contact with air tra...

And so far no sign of it. >> i think early on -- i hope that is not the case. with the malaysia flight we had an issue where the pilot had signed off. and then we had a radar track of it flying back over the peninsula. here we have a pilot asking to go up to a higher elevation and then losing contact with the aircraft. so i think the similarities just are not there for this flight. but it's still very alarming that we haven't really seen anything of it yet. >> what does it tell you scott, that there was no distress call? >> it tells me a couple things. it tells me one that either something cat...

That there was no distress call? >> it tells me a couple things. it tells me one that either something catastrophic happened in the air that the pilots had no knowledge of or could have done anything about. or secondly, it could have been something where the pilots were focusing on trying to fly that aircraft and just never got ahold of it again and crashed into the ocean. >> we talked last time, i remember, and the pilots were telling me when you're up there it's aifuate navigate and communicate. and communicate comes last. so it's the last thing you do. if that plane's in trouble, you worry ...

To tell us there is a part of a performance chart and that's where you climb and put so much work on your engine or you have got a bad situation with weather. the plane, you know develops a problem quickly. there is no time for a call. >> there are different kinds of calls. there is a may day call and what is deemed a pan pan. >> the bottom line is and i think mary will agree with me. our axiom is aifuate, navigate communicate. we don't know what it was. it may very well have been turbulence with the airplane we

To be okay. >> one of the good reasons to have those dam -- cameras up there. let's get back to the top story this morning. how does a 600,000 pound jet liner just vanish without a trace. let's turn to renee marsh for possible answers. >> three words, aifuate, navigate and communicate. it appears whatever happened, it was so fast, the pilots never got to that last step. until they find the data recorders, ail possible theories are on the table. there no shortage of ex-plan sagss. >> you just have to say that absolutely everything is on the table. >> one possibility, pilot error. the last jet...