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Team? >> well, i don't think it's new that that point is being made. we most recently talked about this with respect to the campaign finance issue that cohen pled to and looking back to john edwards. and you've seen debate in the public arena about that. and while it's uncomfortable to have a president or then presidential candidate trying to make arrangements to keep stories about his personal life that are embarrassing quiet, it is legal. it is exist outside of the campaign, which is the fec standard for whether it's a campaign expenditure or not. and yet it's still uncomfortable. and we kee...

Payments, namely the allegation couldn't be true because the six figure pay outs were too small. >> when it's true and you have the kind of money the president had, it's a million dollar settlement. when it's not true, when it's a harassment settlement and it's not true you give them $130,000, $150,000. they went away for so little money it indicates the case was very, very weak. >> if it ain't a million bucks, it ain't nothing. he also talked about the president's legal exposure in the hacking of democratic e-mails. first, the president had nothing to do with it. >> did roger stone ever get t...

>> keeping them honest, he did lie about this. we've been reporting for weeks efforts in russia continued at least until the republican convention in july. but november, that's new. so is giuliani's implication that some of what the president has been telling the public may not have been the whole truth. >> the president is not under oath and the president is trying the best he can to remember what happened back at the time he was the busiest man in the world. and i was with him most of that time. boy, the same way i go under oath and i really think about it, and i really say i can't remember ...

Not true, you give them 130, 150,000. they went away for so little money, it indicates their case was very very weak. >> get it. if it ain't a million bucks, it ain't nothing. he also talked about the president's legal exposure and the hacking and leaking of democratic e-mails, first the president had nothing to do with it. >> did roger stone ever give the president a heads-up on wikileaks leaks concerning hillary clinton and the dnc. >> no he didn't. >> not at all? >> i don't believe so. >> he doesn't believe so? that certainly lets the imagination wander. anyway, that's step one about the tr...

Harris? >> harris: you've given us a lot to chew on, mike emanuel. joined now by chris stirewalt. all right, let's start with that hunger we have at lunchtime, what's it like when the president sells vegetables but the republicans are trying to sell fruit? i say that because the president says it's not enough to just talk about a moving economy, you got to mix and some of the issues that bring out the . >> republicans are very interested in holding on the house, they want to hold onto the house. >> harris: can they do it? >> they can, absolutely. they've got 1:5 five chance, 1:5 ain't nothing....