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Pressure. >> we have to reu his father killed at least 25,000 people in a crackdown against the muslim brotherhood in 1983. i think bashar al-assad is very capable of doing that. jon: you mentioned the crackdown against the muslim brotherhood. there are those in washington who say bashar al-assad is a bad guy, but whatever replaces them were he to fall could be far worse. >> that could be said for a lot of countries in the middle east. as far as syria goes i really have a hard time it could get any worse than bashar al-assad. they've been a state supporter for terrorism for quite sometime. the...

>> let me put it to you this way, i was in the philippines the day that ferdinand marcos declared martial law and became a dictator. he didn't do it without our permission. we gave him permission to become a dictator because he was our boy, he was our pawn. as long as they answer to our corporations, we're good to them. >> but isn't that the nature of the beast? isn't that the way it has to be? >> does it? >> the alternative is that you just let every country get on with it -- >> shouldn't countries determine their own destiny? >> but then you end up with the possibility of further irans, whic...

That ferdinand marcos declared martial law and became a dictator. he didn't do it without our permission. we gave him permission to become a dictator because he was our boy, he was our pawn. as long as they answer to our corporations, we're good with them. >> but isn't that the nature of the beast? isn't that the way it has to be? >> does it? >> the alternative is you just let every country get on with it. >> shouldn't countries determine their own destiny. >> probably, but then you end up with the possibility of further irans. which is dangerous to world peace. no one dispute that. you have a...

Permission. we gave him permission to become a dictator because he was our boy, he was our pawn. as long as they answer to our corporations, we're good with them. >> but isn't that the nature of the beast? isn't that the way it has to be? >> does it? >> the alternative is you just let every country get on with it. >> shouldn't countries determine their own destiny. >> poeb, but then you end up with the possibility of further irans. which is dangerous to world peace. no one dispute that. you have a huge country run by a guy who's said he wants to annihilate israel. these are dangerous people wh...

>> well, support/control, perhaps. >> well, let me put it this way. i was in the philippines the day that ferdinand marcos declared martial law and became a dictator. he didn't do it without our permission. we gave him permission to become a dictator because he was our boy, he was our pawn. as long as they answer to our corporations, we're good with them. >> but isn't that the nature of the beast? isn't that the way it has to be? >> does it? >> the alternative is you just let every country get on with it. >> shouldn't countries determine their own destiny. >> poeb, but then you end up with the...