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>> i like the performance of hope. and i want to ask you two questions here, even though we have no time. one is whether or not you think that performance of hope is part of what was so seductive about president obama as candidate obama, that he performs hope quite consciously. >> right. >> talk to me about that first. >> yeah, no, and there are -- and people should be hopeful. you know, i never thought we would have an african-american, but that does mean something. and yes, there has been progress. saying that there has been progress is one statement. saying that it's been progress because w...

Are but this special prosecutor, she looked pretty confident out there. she almost looked jaunty out there, did she not. >> she did, bill. i think that a grand jury should have went to the grand jury vehicle it would sort of institute public confidence and, therefore, whatever she presented to the grand jury whatever they came back with you can live with and that's that. now she has to answer questions as to whether it's overindicted. i think it potentially can be. here is why i say that when you talk about second degree murder you are talking about as the judge indicated a depravity. was ther...

Are but this special prosecutor, she looked pretty confident out there. she almost looked jaunty out there, did she not. >> she did, bill. i think that a grand jury should have went to the grand jury vehicle it would sort of institute public confidence and, therefore, whatever she presented to the grand jury whatever they came back with you can live with and that's that. now she has to answer questions as to whether it's overindicted. i think it potentially can be. here is why i say that when you talk about second degree murder you are talking about as the judge indicated a depravity. was ther...

>> take the bottles of rum, tequila, just to evoke the memory. >> you call yourself a recovering alcoholic? >> absolutely, yeah. >> is that not difficult to do that? >> people were initially concerned i was doing it. i'm very commitmented to my recovery. i just wanted to remind myself of that feeling. >> what did you feel when you smelled it? >> the positive aspects of alcoholism. i'm fun, i'm jaunty. without having to wake up with a terrible headache and a stranger. >> what about dame helen? i love helen mirren. i think she's just a fabulous perss perss persson, never mind a great star. is sh...

Because i don't drink anymore as you know. jennifer got into that as well. >> she smelled the alcohol? >> take the bottles of rum, tequila, just to evoke the memory. >> you call yourself a recovering alcoholic? >> absolutely, yeah. >> is that not difficult to do that? >> people were initially concerned ways doing it but i'm very committed to my recovery. to remind myself of that feeling. >> what did you feel when you smelled it? >> the positive aspects of alcoholism. i'm fun, i'm jaunty. without having to wake up with a terrible headache and a stranger. >> what about dame helen? i love helen m...