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President of a country of people who doesn't make near that. >> seven times the average income for family. but he is speaking the way he thinks. >> he has got to stop doing that. >> every time we do what you're doing right now, we say learn how to talk regular american people. he gets more and more withdrawn. >> this goes back to his al gore problem. he's so afraid of what might come out of his mouth, he's thinking it through, which makes him make more mistakes, which is why you got that absurd clintonian qualification. >> but we know what he means. he has $215 million in net worth. he has 1% ...

Ridiculous he sounds. he's doing it over and over again. and $374,000 isn't a lot of money to mitt romney. the problem he wants to be president of a country of people who doesn't make near that. >> every time we do what you're doing, learn how to talk american people. he gets more and more withdrawn. >> this goes back to his al gore problem. he's so afraid of what might come out of his mouth, he's thinking it through, which makes him make more mistakes. which is why you got that absurd clip. >> but we know what he means. he has $215 million in net worth. he has 1% a year on his income. so comp...

Carolina. but i think in a sense, it's a noble stand to say this is what we think should happen even though we know full well it's not going to happen. >> mitt romney's al gore problem. that is the title of your article in the washington post. explain this. you talk about mitt romney's efforts at acting like a regular guy that it's just not working for you. >> not exactly. you know, i've been following him around now a bit on the trail and you just sort of wins and cringe a great deal when you're watching romney. i had a similar sensation to what i felt a dozen years ago watching al gore. they...

Al gore problem -- >> romney was in hiding for months, away from the press, he came out because gingrich forced him out. he's going to go right back behind that. you're going to see fewer interviews, town hall meetings. >> when he has to debate the president, what happens? >> i think obama kicks his behind. he'll get in his face a little bit, and mitt won't be able to handle it. >> the president is going to be prepared to do weird things even, unusual, to catch the guy wrong footed. that's the new british phrase now, wrong footed. anyway, they catch the man wrong footed. you'll learn, look it ...

Times i've said this too. this is an unusual interview. all right, let's do it again. >> hey, ron, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. >> yeah, he's a jolly sort of fellow, isn't he? talk about a legitimate question, and did he not think he was going to have to face that sort of question? he seems like the kind of guy who's not used to meeting people on an even playing field. he's used to being the boss and the millionaire, where nobody asks you uncomfortable questions, nobody puts you on the spot because you'll fire them and you'll like it. >> well, there is a difference in a business press and the political pre...