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And he swore, no didn't. and i asked walter alexander, for the cell phone, and he kind of threw the cell phone to me. but -- well, i wasn't aware until, until i was in the car driving back to our hotel that this guy had actually point add gun at him. now, earlier in the day when he had -- when he was talking to me trying to get me to let him come, i didn't hire him. he said it was for free and all of that, he did show me -- i didn't know this guy. you know? i knew the alexander guy but not this guy. he showed me hit his license, his ccr. i assume a guy gives him a ccr and stuff, they vetted hi...

He said they have been returned to him. i'm sorry. bruce just signalled to me they have been returned to him. >> thank you. >> all right. >> thank you. >> and so if granted parole as opposed to completing your sentence in prison you are will under supervision in the community. why is it better to be in the community than in the prison? you know, i do have four kids. i've missed a lot of time with those kids. i think i am a guy who has always been a giving guy. i've -- even on the street, people have always come to me. you know, i -- my reputation has always been that i'm open to the public. i'...

Walter alexander for the cell phone and he kind of through the cell phone to me. i wasn't aware until i was in the car driving back to our hotel that this guy had actually pointed a gun at me. early in the day when he was talking to me, trying to get me to let him calm. he needed to show me -- i didn't know this guy. i knew the alexander guy but i didn't know this guy. he showed me his license. i should have vetted him. i didn't really need to, i knew these guys weren't dangerous. >> your version of the offense is different a little bit from the official records.

How to use it, that, you know, to try to walk these guys through. you know? not throwing punches at one another. also, at one point a couple of guys came to me and they said, o.j., i understand you're a baptist. we're baptist and have no baptist service here. can you help us get a baptist service here? i worked with them. we now have an ongoing baptist service that i as well attended, i attend it religious and pun is intenned and i realized in my nine years here i was a good guy. i'm sure when bruce -- i was always a good guy but could have been a better christian and my commitment to change i...

That was happening out on the street also, but i wasible to keep their eye on the ball. brave. went to the college 6 their choice and ended up missing their graduation because of it. trust me. i wish it would have never happened but as i said, the courses that i've taken, it -- i hope it helps me more if i run into those conflicts with my kids. i'm not a guy that has conflicts on the street. i don't expect to have any when i -- when i leave here, but i feel that i'm much better prepared, but more so -- from i think my commitment to being a better christian. because i thought i was good guy. i ...