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That really had an impact on everybody who works on television, and those that watch it. so, love island is a narrower version of that, a more obviously... it's a dating show that happens to be stripped in this way. and when you look at it, you were at channel 4 when big brother was commissioned, so you know that programme intimately, you were also there when ali g was commissioned, men behaving badly and others. do you think there are some types of programmes, some formats you commissioned years ago that nowadays would be harder to commission? is it harder to commission edgier or difficult pr...

It is probably more risky than it was, as people's tastes change a bit and adapt. so, yeah, i think we can relax in the thinking that shows of the past that seemed very edgy at the time would still happen. yeah, i can't think of one. if ali g suddenly arrived on your desk now, i'm sure you would probably still do it, so... and as we're talking about formats, i would like to talk about some of the people within the formats. the talent, as they are referred to in the industry. we have mentioned i'm a celebrity, because of matt hancock being in the news today, and ant and dec front that, they fro...

Or whatever, to think — we can try these things and, if it fails, it doesn't matter, because we can try something else next week. so i don't think it's less risky, certainly not at itv. it's probably more risky than it was, as people's tastes change a bit and adapt. so, yeah, i think we can relax in the thinking that shows of the past that seemed very edgy at the time would still happen. yeah, i can't think of one. if ali g suddenly arrived on your desk now, i'm sure you would probably still do it, so... and we talked about formats, i would like to talk about some of the people within the fo...

Big brother that was the enormous shift that really had an impact on everybody who works on television and those that watch it. so, love island is a narrower version of that, a more obviously... it's a dating show that happens to be stripped in this way.— stripped in this way. and when you look at it, you _ stripped in this way. and when you look at it, you were - stripped in this way. and when you look at it, you were at - you look at it, you were at channel four when big brother was commissioned, so you know that programme intimately, you are also there when ali g was commissioned, men beh...

Try something else next week. so i don't think it is less risky, certainly not at itv. it is probably more risky than it was, as people's tastes change a bit and adapt. so, was, as people's tastes change a bitand adapt. so, yeah, i think we can relax in the thinking shows of the past that seemed very edgy at the time would still happen. yeah, i can't think of one. if ali g suddenly arrived on your desk now, i'm sure you would probably still do it, so... and we talk quite _ probably still do it, so... and we talk quite adult _ probably still do it, so... and we talk quite adult about formats, i...