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About ufos this could be the report for you because it is full of nos. no evidence ufo sightings are aliens is what we are expecting to hear. there is no idea what the aircraft are. all of the intelligence analysis they just don't know. it is something out there that is still mysterious. they are going to suggest this is not american technology whatever it is. so with all of those nos out there what can we expect it might say yes to? this becomes a big reach. they're not ruling out the possibility that this could be alien spacecraft, what is that, one in a million? one in a billion? one in a t...

They had recov there was recovered material. does this report address some of that? >> we don't know for certain, but there's nothing in this report, i'm told, my colleague has told , that presents evidence that points to an alien spacecraft. having material that couldn't be explained, that would be a piece of evidence for alien spacecraft. so that's not in this report. and it's not in the classified materials. >> is there going to be an unclassified version? >> oh, yeah. congress has required an unclassified report. that's due by june 25th and the public will be able to read that. there will ...

Them to do this. they're saying there's no evidence that the aerial phenomenon that pilots have talked about seeing are alien spacecraft but yet they have no explanation as to what they actually are. so then i don't know what they aren't, but they're saying they don't know what they are. what's your reaction to that? >> well, you really -- it's very difficult to believe what they have said and here's why. they have said one thing and that is that these are not u.s. craft. so that leaves china, russia, and basically some unknown intelligence. but the next step after that is, is it russian or ch...

Spacecraft. that's to echo something former president obama said recently. >> what is true and i'm actually being serious here is that there are -- there's footage and records of objects in the skies that we don't know exactly what they are. >> also cannot rule out the possibility that these were space crafts belonging to adversaries like russia or china which the report is expected to say is actually something more troublesome than aliens. a major gas pipeline dozens of government agencies, florida city's water supply, one of the world's top meat producers all targets of cyber criminals. no...

What has the government said? >> well, they found no evidence that these unexplained phenomenon are alien spacecraft, but they still can't explain what they are. that's going to be a big b"but". they have ruled out that these things that were seen by the navy pilots were some sort of secret american government program. that was out there as one possibility. and that's been eliminated. but we don't have a definitive conclusion on what it is, although officials say there's no evidence it's aliens. >> have they -- what about the possibility of, you know, secret programs belonging to some other go...