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We the people, that we agreed to in this document. your rights get taken away when judges are allowed to have a living constitution. shannon: what do you say of the critics of originalism saying the constitution couldn't have foreseen all that we are dealing with now. >> baloney. it's one of the greatest documents in all of human history and it deserves our respect. if you want to change it. there is a process called the amendment process it's actually there in the constitution. you can do it. it has been done. it's been done 27 times. shannon: being an originalist doesn't mean your decisions ...

And then i am of her justice scalia coming to speak when i was a student at law school, and he talked about it in the constitution, and it had a profound effect on me. speak of the concept sounds simple: interpreting laws according to the original intent of those who rode them. >> regionalism says those are the rights you enjoy today,d they can never be taken away, and if you want to add to them, we, the people, add to them. >> shannon: what do you say to critics who say things change over time, and the constitution couldn't have foreign scene everything we are dealing with in our? >> baloney....

Amendment process in the senate. he is pushing hard. who controls the senate then? 54 senate democrats. they're in the majority. now they don't get 60 votes for anything. they would have needed 60 votes. but the point is it is not just because well republicans are in control now and they won't do anything. democrats had opportunities and they had a president pushing hard and they couldn't get it done. i think it is more just -- to her point, some of this is about the way in which the makeup of the senate, there is every state that gets two votes and wyoming has the same votes as california so ...

Good friend, his heart is good. the initial response where he says we can improve upon in legislation, i think you get many republicans, republicans like myself that are willing to have that conversation. what i'm talking about -- >> he's talking about the ranchers, the elements of that billsh that -- through an amendment process if that happened, could you be on board with hr-8 then? >> so if we improve that bill to respect the law-asiding citizen, that's a conversation we could have. what i saw in that bill is just overly god, and this is the heart of the issue. how do we respect law-aboydin...

I think if you're law enforcement and you have some evidence that they are, you owe it to the campaigns to contact them and they tell that. that didn't happen in the president's case in 2016. that's a mistake, you know. if the fbi or anybody thinks a foreign country is trying to penetrate a campaign, i think the campaign deserves a call from them to say, hey, we've picked this up. something may be happening here. we want you to be extra alert. >> isn't that what the amendment process is for? this is what i don't get. this is something that has -- if you look at polling -- bipartisan support. h...