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Are you brought that up. ami owns the "national enquirer," by the way. let's watch. >> harris: "the new york times" is saying that a tabloid publisher's deal to hush money is now endangering trump even more. i'm paraphrasing a little bit. what you want the nation to know about -- >> president trump: let me just say, i don't think -- i have to go check -- i don't think i even paid any money to that tablet. i don't think we made a payment to that tabloid. >> harris: judy miller, what is awkward about that obviously is wouldn't you know she paid a tabloid? but what are you said is it might not ma...

To complete that undertaking. because the trump organization really couldn't pay for it themselves. that would be an illegal contribution. so the whole issue here is, was this a willful and knowing violation of federal election laws should this ami payment to mcdougle be reported and was the trump campaign in any way complicit with it and the tape itself doesn't answer really any of those questions, but it is something that will be of value to the prosecutors as they evaluate this case. >> caroline, when you look at whether money actually traded hands, there is no evidence that the money that ...

Misrepresentations. but if that is the case, i still think it's a terrible decision, because just the fact that donald trump was discussing the ami payment to karen mcdougal is very damning evidence against donald trump. he knew that there were payments made to hush people that he allegedly had an affair with. that is a further step than what we knew before about his involvement in a potential conspiracy to commit campaign finance fraud by paying off these people, which is an in-kind contribution in advance of the election related to the election so that the public didn't find out. and to this...

Of the ami payment in august, two months prior to the election. and we are hearing maybe we should buy these rights from ami because trump wanted to be the gate keeper of the secrets. he didn't want anybody to know about this before the election occurred. >> rudy giuliani, the president's lawyer confirmed the recordings saying the conversation was less than two mon mn minutes long. giuliani confirmed that trump had directed cohen to make the payment, but quote the payment was never made. adding that mr. trump had told mr. cohen that if we were to make a payment related to ms. mcdougal. the ide...

Beyond that, we want to get to the bottom of this and get the truth expose for the american people. >> reports are that michael cohen raised $130,000 after his alleged affair with a playboy model who became pregnant. you were out there suggesting that maybe this man wasn't michael cohen's actual client. >> i went on fox and we're in the process of getting to the bottom of this 1.6 milli$1.6 mi payment, more information has come to light that calls into question that payment. and whether it was made on behalf of mr. brody. i think it's very unlikely that michael cohen represented mr. brody in c...