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Transmission of viruses either through direct contact or food routes. they paid peter taussig to take his study of viruses to china, now famous bat cage. the perceptions associated with transmission and highly exposed human population at the animal human interface. yes, daszak knows an awful lot about abhorrent pandemics. in fact, he is implicated in one, and google is likely implicated in it as well. together, google -- sick work to keep critical, factual information from the public as nearly 4 million people from around the world died from the virus. it's a horrible story, someday perhaps so...

Species to a human. but you keep an absolutely open mind that it there may be other origins of that. there may be another reason. it could have been a lab leak. i believe, if you look historically what happens in the animal human interface that, in fact, the more likelihood is that you are dealing with a jumper species but i keep in mind all the time. >> bret: that dr. anthony fauci that was june 3rd. kind of an evolution of where he has been talking about this and the origins of the virus. let's bring in former assistant health secretary admiral bret brettgiroir. fox news contributor. thank y...