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Anonymous shopper function, did not work. now we've seen a document with cms on it dated in the last day, september 25th that said it passed that test. is it that you did not know it had passed test when you made your statement saying that it failed? >> well, first of all, chairman, i would like to say that after working with your staff for eight, nine hours, as well as the minority staff, going through this transcribed interview, i've not had a chance to look at this, so this is the first time i'm actually seeing the results of that day. so -- >> what was it, look your job is to know what is ...

Yours that you would be pulled away from the website issues to prepare for testifying here today? >> so if there had been a question of, i will testify, just a question of when. it had been the hope of me and the team working to fix the site that i could continue to focus intensely helping to fix the site this month and come back in a few weeks. that being said i understand that the chairman came to a different decision. i respect that decision. i'm the son of immigrants from korea. i have incredible love for this country. i have huge respect for the institution of congress and its role in our...

Secure the site is today? >> that's the whole point of this hearing. we'll hear from department of homeland security officials. shell secure the.gov space and also from web sites of professionals. but sebelius and hhs rank nearly at the bottom of cyber security. they are the second worst agency in term of their rankings in cyber-security and it's 50% rate. that's a great concern when you look at what type of information is being stored in the exchanges with this website. it's a lot of personal data. so security information, e-mail, addresses, health information, which is some of the most priva...

Okay. >> mr. park, you're going back to something i hoped you wouldn't do, maybe gao can answer, volume on day one was not what it expected on day one, was it? the volume on day one if everyone is going on the site to see what it is all about, mr. browner? >> i don't have those specifics, mr. chairman but i will say this. these volumes, you go for examples on irs, e volume and people filing taxes on 11th hour, this is the same problem that irs deals with on annual basis. what you need to do is appropriately plan for your performance and stress testing and there's fundamental questions whether ...

Have found out our employer either cannot afford or cannot receive the healthcare you have grown accustomed to. the specific reason we are here today is a narrow part of this committee's oversight and legislative authority. it's in fact to examine the failures of what should have been an i.t. success story. nearly $600 million, 3 1/2 years, is larger than kayak ever dreamed of having to set up their web sites. it's larger than e-bay spent in the first many years of a much more complex site that auctions in realtime millions and millions of products a year. we are here to examine a failure of t...