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We'll see what happens. >> manuel, you talked to him who is the roger stone that you know >> he's a flamboyant outrageous person he loves to be in the spotlight. he loves to mix it up with people he's fearless. and he will be punching both above and below the belt throughout this process. even today he's on instagram with a photograph of mueller as a waiter and well, he has also put pictu pictures of himself with trump on, too. he has a picture of mueller as a waiter holding a tray with an empty hamburger in it and he says #nothing burger related to the indictment you're going to see much, muc...

Roger stone and the hacked e-mail shelby, you've been reporting on roger stone for a while now. is it clear from the roger stone indictment that someone in the trump campaign, potentially the president himself, committed a crimele? >> it will certainly looks that way. mueller went out of his way to say that stone was in touch with the trump campaign even after he left his official position in 2015 he maintained contact with the campaign someone was directed to get in touch with stone to get more information about the wiki leak dumps. it looks like somebody in the trump campaign trump himself p...

Questioned by the mueller team and so roger stone getting on tv, ala rudy giuliani style goes ahead and want wants to make some disclosures he thinks will remove any type of criminal exposure for him but make by making those statements he leads donald trump into the web that robert mueller has cast to be able to catch anyone and everyone who has commit add crime. >> how far into the web is what we want to know. glen, we know the charges here, obstruction, witness tampering, making false statements. what's not there is conspiracy what does that tell you about the investigation? >> yeah, it's in...

Special counsel charged him. he spoke with nbc news just moments ago. >> this was egregious overreach by mr. mueller, the fbi director who had to have approved this raid should be fired over it because it was unwarranted i guess it's an effort to intimidate me, but i am not intimidated. the allegation that two campaign officials instructed me or inquired of me about wikileaks is false i expect they can get somebody to say that but they will be people with an ax to grind or seeking reduction in their sentence. >> stone was charged with seven counts of lying to congress, obstruction and witness ...

But let's see what mueller comes up with next and if he has anything more because we really don't know. >> in that case as we wait, all of us, asthe president waits, what does this particular indictment palestinian for him >> well, it's another person very close to the president who is now charged with lying to investigators about his contacts not so much with russians but an organization believed to be -- believed by many in the intelligence community to be a cutout for russia. i thought that stone interview clip from tucker carlson was interesting because he's posing this as a he said he sai...