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That is just a common i think democrats and sense approach. republicans have to really be unburdened by the ideology that's been pervasive in this debate and approach it from a practical perspective, which appreciates that none of us want violent people, dangerous people, people who have been found to be mentally ill. we don't want them to be in possession of a gun. we don't want them to be our neighbors and be in our community. >> you're backing up with the -- one of the arguments the nra is making, is that there are plenty of people who have lied on their background checks and have been able...

Politician. what about anthony's point, which i think is so important. why have democratic politicians had so much trouble talking to the law abiding gun owners. there are lots of law abiding gun owners there. why are they so alienated from the idea of gun control? >> again, i -- i think it's as simple as pointing out the false choices being presented. it's -- you can be, i am in favor of the second amendment, i am in favor of people who are law abiding citizens, having an ability to purchase a firearm. when we're talking about california's approach that was passed today, the second amendment ...

Two charges with obstruction of justice, the other lying to investigators. a revelation about the older alleged bomber and his widow shortly before the bombing. what do you make of the case between these three. two kaszak students and the other a u.s. citizen. >> one question we should never ask is, can people really be that stupid? if these allegations are true, the idea that these guys given the pressure in the country. >> it wasn't help before the bombing, it was help after the alleged bombing. >> you make an important point. there's no evidence at all that these three were conspirators to ...

Accords and it hasn't ended completely, but it's pretty much ended. don't be so pessimistic about the fact that this war on terror, terrorist war against us, isn't at some point going to come to an end. they do, we can't see that when we're in the middle of it, like we couldn't see that in 1986, '87, '88 in northern ireland. >> i will just say one thing. it is a general consensus among those who study the northern ireland issue that the good friday agreement might have happened earlier, but for the recruiting tools that these hunger strikes and the way it was dealt with provided. >> we have a ...

>> you're a successful politician. what about anthony's point, which i think is so important. why have democratic politicians had so much trouble talking to the law abiding gun owners. there are lots of law abiding gun owners there. why are they so alienated from the idea of gun control? >> again, i -- i think it's as simple as pointing out the false choices being presented. it's -- you can be, i am in favor of the second amendment, i am in favor of people who are law abiding citizens, having an ability to purchase a firearm. when we're talking about california's approach that was passed today...