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It's mindbogglingly. paul: dan, we go way back to antitrust policy, the at&t break-up and imbm case, this is stunning news to me. i'm really surprised at this. >> yeah, one of the interesting assets of this is that the last time the justice department brought antitrust suit against a vertical integration. paul: don't compete directly against one another. >> right. they lost that one. people like, indeed, justice robert, developed theory of antitrust, there has been in real theory develop today replace it. with the justice department sue thong base issue, you have to ask, what is the idea, what...

It's mindbogglingly. paul: dan, we go way back to antitrust policy, the at&t break-up and imbm case, this is stunning news to me. i'm really surprised at this. >> yeah, one of the interesting assets of this is that the last time the justice department brought antitrust suit against a vertical integration. paul: don't compete directly against one another. >> right. they lost that one. people like, indeed, justice robert, developed theory of antitrust, there has been in real theory develop today replace it. with the justice department sue thong base issue, you have to ask, what is the idea, what...

>> bill: keep an eye on this story. justice department stepping in to try to block an $85 billion deal between time warner and at&t. the government claiming it would harm consumers by forcing price hikes on your cable television bill among other things. chief washington correspondent james rosin live in d.c. what's at stake and in the justice department's determination to block it, what is their case? >> at stake is quite a lot. not just the massive proposed acquisition itself estimated last year at over $85 billion in val yu but the future of antitrust policy and case law in the united states...

Vertical mergers a policy for doj at this point? >> antitrust policy is important. i never have been an expert at it. it was one subcommittee of the judiciary i never chose to be a part of. we have an experienced team in the department of justice. we do try to handle each case professionally. we have the chief of the antitrust division and i'm not able to announce any new policies at this time, congressman. >> will there be a discussion concerning vertical and horizontal mergers when it comes to the so-called term behavioral conditions where two companies that emerge may have to divest and cou...

For doj at this point? >> antitrust policy is important. i have never been an expert at it. it was one subcommittee of the judiciary i never chose to be a part of. but we have an experienced team in the department of justice. we do try to handle each case professionally. we have a good chief now of the antitrust division. and i'm not able to announce any new policies at this time, congressman. >> will there be a discussion concerning vertical and horizontal mergers when it comes to so-called term behavioral conditions where two companies that are merging may have to divest? could there be futu...