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So that people can actually get better faster and live the lives they want and deserve. so all of this conversation around we got multiple plans, well, if you've got multiple plans, that means you don't have a plan at all. and so you can't repeal the aca and leave this gaping hole in a health care system that has been reformed it's almost like the conversation about whether you should eat broccoli and spinach. everybody knows broccoli and spinach is good for you. and what the republicans are trying to get us to do is understand that we don't need broccoli and spinach, they want to give us a ha...

Homeowners deadbeats if they couldn't pay their mortgages but suddenly became this really well-funded faux grass-roots kind of thing which just went after health care every minute, every minute. it had all the optics you needed. do you see evidence that democrats can figure out how to message discipline, get adds on the air and actually do the mechanics of politicking? >> i don't think we can replicate the republican strategy because we are bound by principle and an ideology that government is supposed to do good for the people that it's elected to represent. i don't think that we can have a d...

They could not get treatment they needed but now they're getting care and better and so i've talked to these ceos and health systems. i've talked to the leaders that run hospitals, i work with them and they believe the affordable care act means a whole lot to them and it's allowing them the opportunity to do what they do best, that's save lives. i'm not talking one or two, i'm talking tens of millions in cities across the country. >> we do know for certain the uninsured rate in 2009 was 16.4%, now it's 10%. one more word anton and jess, yes or no, do republicans fully repeal and not replace th...

It's not about everybody wearing shirts saying "make america sick again." it'saking sure america knows the real-life consequences to their families and neighbors of what republicans are trying to do. that's the democrati mandate. >> i believe we have anton gunn, a health care strategist who used to be with the department of health and human services. anton, let's talk about the practical things, what democrats would be showing the country is happening as ook is rolled back. can you talk about how --an you possibly unwind this law without -- and leave in place, let's say, leaving somebody who's...

Back in the game. >> i don't know but -- don't wish that on me. but i would say this. they're both known commodities. you don't get anybody perfect in the diverse political atmosphere at this point. bush is from a key swing state and outreach to voters of the hispanic community. a great race to watch. >> we know that his mother doesn't want him to run. >> she'll vote for him. put that on the record. >> former hhs official, anton gunn, beth fuey and tom davis not running for president, thanks to all of you. coming up, could the tensions between united states and russia play out 6 in outer spa...