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Thank you for coming in yet again as the subject turns to your bailey wick. i know you're not a political analyst but i have to ask you about timing. this is a president who has said, how much do we love wikileaks? this comes out about modes of surveillance. at a time when the president has made a so far evidence-free charge about modes of surveillance. anything strike you as odd? >> i don't see how this could be in his interests. president trump is no longer the opposition. he is the representative of this government. and these tools, these agencies, these intelligence agencies, they are ther...

Them. >> eric, anything strike you from the interview? was there anything in her answers about benghazi or the e-mails that you thought might come back to haunt her? >> jake, i couldn't help but notice when you first raised the issue of her mishandling classified information. she laughed. i don't know if that's a nervous tick or if she really does think this is a big joke. and it's not a partisan investigation that's being carried out by the fbi. that investigation is being carried out by the obama administration, which is why it was completely inappropriate for the president of "60 minutes" t...

Least, but i wanted to get your thought not necessarily on the guy on the train, but the three americans who took him down. you've been in situations like that where it all comes down to stints. >> sure. leland: take us through what happens mentally to folks as you get woken up from a nap, you see an ak-47. >> i was fortunate enough every time one was shot at me, i had a gun too, and i was a better shot. these guys were on holiday, and they're taking naps, and just the instinct of fight or flight, we want to live, we're going to fight through this, let's roll, the whole thing with, you know, e...

It may seem ob yushs but all investigators will tell you never get focused on one particular theory. >> you are right to remind us but we sort of seem to be going back to kind of an mh-370 in that it's 45 minutes into the flight. it's where you are at an altitude where you would anticipate that okay you've gotten off the ground. you are flying and you seem to be flying well. this should be the least dangerous part of the flight and, yet, something again happened. does anything strike you as we look beyond weather? >> well i'm trying not to draw parallels to mh 370, and i think some of our expe...

Him? >> about 2008. >> greta: and under what circumstance. what was he like at the time. ? >> sure, he seemed to be the same chris dorner that i knew in college. he called me, we hadn't spoken in years since we graduated school in about 2001. and again, he called me about 2008. it was sort of a flent surprise out of the blue and we spoke where ten or 15 minutes on the phone and what the other had been up to the in previous few years, that's it. i obviously learned he was serving in the navy and working as a lapd officer at the time. >> in going back and sort of searching your memory back to wh...