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>> well, they have said it's ridiculous and absurd. >> but they haven't said he's not an asset. >> yeah, it's striking. i did just want to point parallels. when trump said he'd be happy to release the transcripts from those meetings, that's the exact same thing he said about his tax returns. oh, yeah, i would have no problem. years later we have still never seen them. >> and politico writes a headline trump promises transparency on the transcripts of the calls. that is not what he did. he answered a question to jeanine pirro and the media is giving him the benefit of the doubt. he did no such ...

Of their speech were still being finished and still put in the teleprompter so you can't guarantee people would say, well, you asked for our time, we're going to read it and see and make a news judgment as to whether it's important. furthermore, we've seen -- it's one thing for jack kennedy to address the country during the cuban missile crisis with soviet ships approaching our hemisphere. it was another thing for, say, ronald reagan to go on the air to make an appeal that cull anyone -- culminated in him telling people to call congress over tax reform. so there's a question whether you should...

Those are things that should scare us because he is an authoritarian person and we don't want to see that in america. we are a democracy. yes, it's a very big difference. this is much worse than watergate. >> i'm going to ask the question people ask me pretty much every day. anyone i run into. what the american people who are concerned about this and thank god a lot of americans are concerned about the idea of a foreign power potentially puppeteering the president of the united states. what does the constitution allow to be done? what can the american people do if you have particularly now in ...

Said donald trump was a kook, an opportunist, not a conservative, not a republican, and not fit to be president. he's had an epiphany somewhere along the road between then and now. look, we're going -- two shoes have dropped and a third is going to drop. the first shoe it seems to me in this question of the president and russia was in helsinki. when the president standing next to vladimir putin sided with vladimir putin really against the intelligence services of the united states on a question of grave importance. the second shoe came the other day when the president took the position that th...

Nail on the head, that the republican party, the party of reagan who said, mr. gorbachev, tear down that wall, leave aside the law and order party, a republican president, any president, but especially a republican president when asked that question should have had one answer. no, and leave it at that. the fact that he went on for two minutes of word salad croutons and red onions tells you all that you need to know. and i think to lindsey graham -- i want to also react to lindsey graham here where he wanted to know whoever leaked this had an agenda. people leak for all sorts of reasons. it cou...