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>> oh, absolutely. it's constitutionally a problem but also an appearance problem. the military is one of the more respected organizations in america, as it should be. when this type of appearance of a conflict of interest, or an actual conflict of interest exists, it in part tarnishes that respect that we have for the military, and that's something that we have to hold in very, very high regard. >> congressman raja krish krishnamoorthi, thank you for being here. >> thank you, brianna. felicity huffman making her final plea to avoid jail time in the college admissions scandal. hear what she ...

I think the -- look, he received advice apparently from the ethics people that it was a close call, that there was no actual conflict of interest. but there was an appearance problem. and in that situation, given the magnitude of the appearance problem with respect to the most important thing on the justice department's plate right now, the right thing to do is not to put the department in that position. and ironically, of course, the person who is slated to replace him on a permanent basis, bill barr, has very much the same problem as we learned today, you know, wrote a memo, 20 pages, that h...

His opinions have been expressed both factually and legally, and that bars him from making an objective decision on it that isn't predetermined. >> what do you think, ben? >> i largely agree with that. i think the -- look, he received advice apparently from the ethics people that it was a close call, that there was no actual conflict of interest. but there was an appearance problem. and in that situation, given the magnitude of the appearance problem with respect to the most important thing on the justice department's plate right now, the right thing to do is not to put the department in that ...

The line when you're a prosecutor. you don't want to even be able to see the line. so if someone suggests to you that there's an appearance problem, the smart thing -- the prudent thing to do is to recuse yourself. it's not that hard. >> chuck, let me ask this. i asked you about bill barr's legal analysis. what if that's coupled with the fact that he also met the president and essentially interviewed with him to be his lead personal lawyer in the mueller? are those two -- now that you put those two facts together, do you think would that still lead to the same decision, or do you think they wo...

He's going to last through the weekend. meaning? >> well, it's a political problem. it's an appearance problem. i assume in the ranks of doj, it's an incredible morale problem. you know, this is bringing in somebody at the top who appears to have a very serious conflict of interest. and by all other standards before this time, that's the wrong person for that job. that's what jeff sessions realized on day one which led him to recuse himself. whitaker should recuse himself at the very least, not commit himself to come in and big foot on top of what doj is now doing >> didn't you just say standa...