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Unbelievable. >> it is ridiculous. even ellis -- i shouldn't say that. >> don't say that. >> isn't that ridiculous? >> this is a silly, honest to god. first of all, there is nothing remotely wrong with the lady. >> what lady. >> this attorney. >> with all the justice department attorneys shouldn't they just for appearance sake? >> it would be improper to investigate her political background. >> i'm not talking about her. >> improper. >> the attorney general of the united states has a wide variety of people who investigate this. shouldn't they just for appearance sake choose a neutral independe...

Taken us, because from appearance sake, they looked like they could be al shabaab. they were -- >> al shabaab, islamic militants which that would be the worst case scenario. >> that would mean the worst case scenario because i'm american and i'm a woman. and i knew that if this indeed was al shabaab, then my hopes of survival were -- they were nil. so you know, there hadn't been very many kidnappings taking place on land or taking place in this particular area, so there wasn't any precedent set to know what was going to happen. >> when did you realize that she had been kidnapped? >> just rough...

We had been driving for seven to ten minutes and then all of a sudden, we get cut off from the right side by another vehicle, and they splash mud up over the windshield and i think, you know, what kind of idiotic driver is this who just completely cut us off. next thing i know they're pounding the windshield and the windows with ak-47s and screaming and we're completely surrounded, and they yanked the doors open and climbed in and stuck a gun to my head and just take off. i mean, we just barrel down these camel tracks out of town into the desert, and i mean, that's how it continued for hour af...

After hour after hour. >> was there any explanation about who these people were, why they wanted you? >> no, nothing. the initial like act of being abducted was terrifying enough, but it became heightened because we didn't know and we didn't understand who it was who had taken us, because from appearance sake, they looked like they could be al shabaab. they were -- >> al shabaab, islamic militants which that would be the worst case scenario. >> that would mean the worst case scenario because i'm american and i'm a woman. and i knew that if this indeed was al shabaab, then my hopes of survival ...

Mediterranean for humanitarian reasons or evacuation reasons so i disagree with those who think we have to cut defense now for appearance sake. so we seem like we are serious about taking on the national debt and the deficit. we are at historic lows of 3.6 percent of g.d.p. and i argue it is dangerous for us on go any lower because our allies are saying, what is america doing here? what are the interests? are they going to protect their economic interests? their social interests? what are we going to do? how are we going to do that? how do we project america's power? if you cut defense spendin...