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Corps of engineers has to deal with a nuclear attack. we're not there today and god help us if we ever get back to that situation. so this has never been used. certainly there is no justification for the president to you it today. should we come to the need for public works projects, walls or others, we have a way of doing it. it's called the constitution. come to the congress. go through the appropriation process, make a determine fwh s whether it's appropriate and useful to spend money on that. right now there's $37 billion the president could conceivably take out of communities around the n...

Needs to be done to accomplish that goal. he campaigned on it. he continues to raise it at meetings on various topics. he's going to get it done one way or the other. i would recommend it be done through the appropriation process, the regular legislative process. i think that's the best way to get it done, to continue the work that previous presidents have done. if that isn't accomplished, i think he will go ahead and use the emergency powers that a president has to accomplish his stated goal. >> but we've all been reporting that mitch mcconnell warned him that if he were to do that, there wou...

Do we think the declaration of a national emergency is pretty much an assumption at this point? >> yes, although we're not sure if it's going to happen tonight. we don't think that will happen. they'll see this out, congress. there's been a committee that's supposed to come to a compromise on this but the president has already undercut that committee. the president has basically said there's no use in trying. the emergency declaration is really -- it's a controversial thing with the president's own party. i talked to lots of republicans that do not like an emergency declaration. >> let me jump...

Border wall. that would then go to the house and senate to affirm or to vote against. do you think there are enough votes in the senate to pass, to approve of president trump's national emergency declaration or are enough americans concerned about such a thing whether it's because of the precedent or because it takes away power from the legislative branch? >> well, we'll have to see what would happen. the president hasn't specifically said he's going to invoke an emergency powers. but he's, under the constitution, he's probably got some rights there. also under the statute that gives -- speaks...

That would then go to the house and senate to affirm or to vote against. do you think there are enough votes in the senate to pass, to approve of president trump's national emergency declaration or are enough americans concerned about such a thing whether it's because of the precedent or because it takes away power from the legislative branch? >> well, we'll have to see what would happen. the president hasn't specifically said he's going to invoke an emergency powers. but he's, under the constitution, he's probably got some rights there. also under the statute that gives -- speaks to emergency...