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A car chasing down one unarmed man, and the jury is hearing the prosecution point that out, not just with evidence or common sense logical arguments. at one point this prosecutor just said, quote, come on, let's get real. >> he had his gun, diego has his gun, everybody had a gun -- everybody in this case had a gun except ahmaud arbery. what aural most happened? come on, let's get real. that's some of what this jury has to weigh. in the other wisconsin case, some of the most influential voices on the right are not only weighing in on the verdict, but they've gone beyond that since the news brok...

Time. that's something the prosecution has torn into noting there was no arrest and the defendants never even said the words. >> a citizen's arrest is for emergency situations where a crime happens right in front of you and you can take action right then and there to arrest somebody because you know about it, you've seen it, you're taking action right then and there. if it's a felony, you can run after the person and chase them down. that's all this means. it's not a citizen's arrest. they never said it. none of the defendants saw mr. arbery commit any crime that day. >> this is important here...

Of cops. are you aware of that as real law, and what are your thoughts on it? >> right off the bat, of course i'm not an attorney. but common sense tells me that individuals operating under the color of law without proper authority, there are issues and concerns. it's quite clear in the arbery case, as is the case in the rittenhouse situation, it's quite clear that individuals firmly believe that they can kind of self-dep ties when it involves issues of either black lives or black interests, and they become bold enough to say not only can we self-dep ties, but we can really adopt the strategy ...

Self-defense, which is an affirmative defense where you say, in addition there are these facts that exonerate me. >> is there a suggestion that the jury may get the case today, or will it extend to tomorrow? >> it's likely. you never know. there are sometimes last-minute motions the judge needs to hear before it gets to jury instructions. jury instructions can take a long time. they're long, often boring, they're confusing, and they can take up a couple of hours sometimes, depending on objections the lawyers have, if there's a charging conference. so they should get the case today, but i would...

Ties yourself as law enforcement and act as law enforcement and even be given certain courtesies and professional courtesies as law enforcement as long as it's against throws two individuals. >> all such important points. it's heavy stuff. i'm mention again for accuracy for the viewers, in the arbery case, of course, there's a separate hate crimes issue that has yet to be litigated which goes to the underlying evidence of documented racism. the prosecutors in this murder trial are steering away from it. whether that's legal strategy, we'll see in the days ahead how that fared. that's another l...