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>> you accepted a big settlement from fox. lis wiehl accepted this settlement from o'reilly. should women accept these payments? is that part of the problem, gretchen, i have to ask you. >> there's two ways that we're going to settle sexual harassment allegations, settlements that shuts up the victims, and also forced arbitration clauses in employment contracts. that's a secret chamber. that also shuts up the victims. so we're fooling society into thinking that we don't have a problem with this issue anymore. why? because we don't hear about these cases. but why, brian? it's because women are ...

We were dealing with before july 26 in 2016. look at harvey weinstein. he had a pay a fine if there was a case. this is covering up. this is enablers. this is shutting up the victims. i think it's absolutely horrifying that we have allowed this to go on for so long in corporate culture. it's a reason i ask people to join the be fierce movement to stand-up and speak up and say enough is enough. >> you accepted a big settlement from fox. another accepted a $32 million settlement from o'reilly. should women accept this? >> there's two ways to settle it, settlements. that shuts up the victims. als...

National attention just 15 months before. >> no, it's incredible. of course one of the other big stories, and it was covered at the time, the allegations against president trump himself. allegations of harassment and in some cases assault. his campaign is now being subpoenaed by one of the accusers, summers zervos who has accused him of aggressively kissing her or touching her breast, et cetera. he's denied the claims. he called it fake news this week. how does this concern you as somebody who is making a big cause of the issue of changing the culture to have the president of the united states...

We know that there is this number has people saying, what's going on inside that company? when you think about leadership. leaders in 2017 are called upon to be thoughtful. to be considerate. this is a time of conscious capitalism. people care about it. so when all of this substantial raised, it really puts a company like fox in a situation. >> they also talked about the arbitration clauses. another way your hands can get tied. >> confidential clauses shut us up and arbitration is much worse than confidentiality of arbitration is a way to take away your right to a public jury. >> i want to ask...

Read the fine print. we see the pages with terms and conditions online. a lot of people don't read. so people don't know what they're signing up for. companies include arbitration clauses and common in the corporate world. if you have agreed to arbitration, you can still pursue a claim and won't be heard by a jury and it does eliminate class action lawsuits, as well. limits the amount of information the side gets from the other side and it is virtually impossible to appeal and bottom line, pamela, you have to read those terms and conditions. pamela? >> yep. take the time and read the fine prin...