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>> reporter: catholic schools are able to choose their textbooks and teachers because they don't get tangled up big bureaucracies or unions. >> the teacher and the principal have a real opportunity in a catholic school to be the leaders. and they make curriculum choices. close to the students. >> reporter: but some educators say catholic schools aren't better, they just have better students because they can be picky about whom they let in. >> catholic schools do not have to accept every student like a public school does. catholic schools can expel students easier than a public school can. and ...

Fostering an atmosphere of inequity and part of that was the police. that the police were protecting the of a fluent and harassing, intimidating stop and frisk profiles minorities but especially poor minorities. i think you're exactly right. i will say that i don't think that the race relations in the country are any better because of what has come from this. i mean, clearly we see in the polls now more of a divide between black and white than we've seen since, guess when, eric, the '70s. >> not only that, juan, bring it to michelle, juan points out things aren't better. president obama last w...

Were. there were promises about something to obama and i will give him $800 billion he spent and things aren't better. >> bob: you don't think things are better than a year ago? >> eric: i don't. >> dana: something else happened in the stimulus in the long run will be beneficial for all of us. this is recognition finally that -- and republicans and democrats are guilty of it for decades. being venture capital list and giving money to those who fail was the beginning of the end of that. you saw that last december when the tax credit expired in both parties let it go. that might be the one good ...

I'm saying here is where we were. there were promises about something to obama and i will give him $800 billion he spent and things aren't better. >> bob: you don't think things are better than a year ago? >> eric: i don't. >> dana: something else happened in the stimulus in the long run will be beneficial for all of us. this is recognition finally that -- and republicans and democrats are guilty of it for decades. being venture capital list and giving money to those who fail was the beginning of the end of that. you saw that last december when the tax credit expired in both parties let it go....