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To spare. arlen specter was the deciding vote. rick santorum is a conservative but he supports spector over toom toomey. he also voted to double the size of the department of education. he also voted to expand medicare. when medicare is already short of money. these aren't conservative votes so i think there's explaining to do when you run as a conservative butt your voting record doesn't reflect that. >> you think it was an attack ad? >> i think it was a fair comparison. i think rick santorum, he's a nice guy but he didn't exactly shake it up in washington. if you think about it i appreciate ...

Phrase that david axlerod flagged as being strange. someone else said i've never heard someone call themselves severely conservative. michael, what read to me about mitt romney's presentation there and calling himself severely conservative and using the word 25 times in the speech, it was almost like those nba care ads where there is no subtext. it's just nba cares. it was mitt romney conservative, mitt romney conservative. there was nothing else. >> which is a big way of signaling you aren't conservative at all. not only does he signal that, we were talking about rick santorum's appeal earlie...

Knock-out going. there will be conservatives running against, self-proclaimed con seventive, i won't say they are or aren't conservative against romney staying in the race. one thing that a lot of people like me should want it to happen. if he doesn't stay in the race. charles is right, what will happen in the next 46 states? romney will win the majority of them and ron paul will get 30, 35, 40% of the vote. there is always an anti-vote. it will go to paul and make paul much more formidable figure in the republican party. if you think gingrich, romney or a santorum-romney race is discomforting...

Knock-out going. there will be conservatives running against, self-proclaimed con seventive, i won't say they are or aren't conservative against romney staying in the race. one thing that a lot of people like me should want it to happen. if he doesn't stay in the race. charles is right, what will happen in the next 46 states? romney will win the majority of them and ron paul will get 30, 35, 40% of the vote. there is always an anti-vote. it will go to paul and make paul much more formidable figure in the republican party. if you think gingrich, romney or a santorum-romney race is discomforting...

You also see some sliding, continued sliding for newt gingrich. he's 11%, 12%, but has had a barrage of negative attacks, launched against him and i went to event up the road in ames, iowa, and talked to newt gingrich and he said to the crowd they need to choose the most conservative candidate they can and i asked whether he thought mitt romney was a true conservative. >> no. he's a massachusetts moderate at best. he registered as a democrat to vote for paul tsongas, the most liberal guy in 1992 running and called himself a moderate running for governor in 2002. and signed a bill to pay tax pa...