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They want to sit down with the house republicans and senate democrats and negotiate in a room. this is an acknowledgment that the ping-pong isn't working and the move to get the senate to the table. if they don't it will give them the ability to say we tried to negotiate in regular order here and senate democrats aren't doing it. we don't know if the senate democrats will say yes or no yet. they are trying to take it all in and figure out how to respond. we are an hour away from technically the government shutting down and it does not look like there is in chance that will be averted. >> let's...

Anyway, pushing against fairness. fairness is a great democratic argument. he is arguing wealthy should pay their fair share and aren't doing it. but is raising taxes on the wealthy a political winner? when we come back, fairness versus way out capitalism. this is "hardball." hello! who's she? downy unstopables. here to shake up your fresh. toss these little scent boosters in before you wash. and the fresh scent will last until you're ready to wash again. downy unstopables. the fresh too feisty to quit. you know, from car insurance companies shouting, "save 500 bucks over here!" "no, save 300 ...

This is so much fun. we are both protecting the same thing. newt gingrich is probably coupling back too. anyway, pushing against fairness. fairness is a great democratic argument. he is arguing wealthy should pay their fair share and aren't doing it. but is raising taxes on the wealthy a political winner? when we come back, fairness versus way out capitalism. this is "hardball." ♪

That is the first thing i learned and the other thing is, i found out doctors are doing it, too. i tell you one thing, dr. samadi and i aren't doing it. we do it based on clinical experience and reading the journals and getting in to the issue but the idea 50% of physicians out there, are googling symptoms and googling diseases and telling their patients what to do as a result bothers me. i don't have a problem with people out there, finding symptoms on-line and coming to me or coming to dr. samadi and saying, what about this? this? i don't have a problem with sorting through what people find ...

Same way, i think, as progressives. had this bill gone down, you would have seen the same activity, you know. both -- everybody should, you know, should abolish it and not condone it and that's what needs to happen. >> absolutely. it's got to stop. now, joe, regarding the democrats, you know, they put on the happy face like everybody is all together on this. let's face it, a number of people who are on the far left of the -- of the democrat party, angry, no public option and stuff like that. behind the scenes, they got some mending to do. >> yeah. i think there is some mending to do on the dem...