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>> the human element of this which is she has worked as hard or harder than anyone in this town for more than 20 years. she's got a little time off now, and by god she's enjoying it. there's life beyond politics. just agree. you haven't seen her, chris. >> let me ask you this. forget hillary clinton. is there the first question i put to you but you went to the rant parts on this. is there not a game played by all politicians to pretend they're not ambitious? >> yes. >> they all play that game. >> yes. >> thank you. >> those aren't exclusive -- >> that would include hillary clinton. >> but it d...

Ought to run. there's this game that goes on that i want you to admit to. you won't admit to the gamesmanship. >> the human element of this which is she has worked as hard or harder than anyone in this town for more than 20 years. she's got a little time off now, and by god she's enjoying it. there's life beyond politics. just agree. you haven't seen her, chris. >> let me ask you this. forget hillary clinton. is there the first question i put to you but you went to the rant parts on this. is there not a game played by all politicians to pretend they're not ambitious? >> yes. >> they all play t...