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The trump campaign, rudy giuliani taking the microphone, donald trump step eight side far little bit. lower right-hand corner, waiting for hillary clinton to be speaking in charlotte, north carolina. florida, north carolina, two very key swing states. want to bring back in our panel as we are watching these live events, david corn, bettina, and michelle. florida, as i was mentioning before we were moving into donald trump speaking here, you know, bettina, the interesting thing is the numbers here. they've been going back and forth but the latest numbers out of florida again, clinton up by thre...

On the wrong end of this one. the game tied at 1-1 in the sixth. russell hits a two-run home run. then in the eighth, baez with the bases clearing double. 8-4. game six is tomorrow night in chicago. good thing chicago fans have the cubs right now. the bears aren't good. playing the packers. rough night. huge hit from clay matthews. he left the game with a broken arm. despite that, the bears were playing well. aaron rodgers throwing a touchdown late in the game. josh brown will not be suiting up for the team this weekend for the game in london. brown suspended for one game at the start of the...

They don't lower their flags all the time when there's a terrorist attack here. they don't give purple hearts at fort hood. do you think there's a lack of respect for veterans these days? absolutely. i don't think it's a left and right issue. >> why? >> because it's a systemic problem we've seen prior to electing president obama. we also went into a war we shouldn't have even gone into or into a country and started a war where a lot of people shed their blood. the right can't just talk about a military planes and ships and everything. our soldiers wear the junkiest crappiest body armor. i have...

Blood and sacrificed and isis took over. they don't lower their flags when it is a terrorist attack here, don't give purple hearts to people at fort hood. do you think there's lack of respect toward veterans these days? >> absolutely. but i don't think it is a left and right issue. >> you don't? >> no. >> why? >> because i think it is a systemic problem that we have seen prior to electing president obama. we also went into a war we shouldn't have, went into a country, started a war where a lot of people shed their blood. the other thing is you can't just talk about or the right can't just talk...

What do you say the real rate is? >> there's one number to call. the u 6 has it at 9.8%. >> double. >> there are other ways to look at it that it's as high as 18%. we're a big country. we know it's bad. it's awful. >> you put together where some of the jobs are and who is creating them. health care, 45,000. retail 44,000. food services 42,000 in october. >> go inside those numbers. >> health care, we know that's a huge area of growth. that's going to be strong for a long time. we have a nurses' shortage and those kind of things. you see 44,000 retail and food services, those aren't good paying...