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Tactically on a federal level? >> well, it's a great question. and by the way, their gdp is about the size of canada's. their budget amounts to about 100 billion. so you're right, we're talking about numbers that are comparable to those of significant countries. i think the answer to your question has to do with a couple of things. first of all, the level of partisan rancor, while it's been very high and dysfunctional in california in the recent past, is nothing compared to what we've got going on here in washington. i mean, if you think about the fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling, in my view ...

Of protests out this weekend. folks that are affected by sandy are saying look how the government handled katrina and let's compare that to what's happening now with us. let's listen to some of these protesters. >> here we stand, victims of sandy, 75 days later, still waiting. we are suffering. families are homeless. people are without johns and struggling. >> where the heck is the red tape being cut? because i sure haven't seen it. my neighbors haven't seen it. my friends haven't seen it. we are still fighting. >> perry, how's this going to play out with the sandy relief bill? do you think th...