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Some major power in the white house. they're very smart people. they know how to run things and they're rising to the hop with gary kohn leading it. he may be the next chief of staff. wouldn't that be interesting to see an alum of goldman, the former president of goldman run his white house? >> i wonder what that would mean for the president's agenda especially with steve bannon on the way down. he hasn't been demoted or anything like that yet but in terms of his influence being lessened? >> that's a good question. i think it goes back to what their strategy in syria, what their strategy in th...

Now. where do words matter on policy issues, on foreign policy? they matter a tremendous amount. they don't just matter because germany is unsettled or ukraine is unsettled. it matters because your own staff behind the scenes trying to create briefing documents trying to give you pathways forward for your administration, posture a policy, aren't sure where to go. >> that's the key point. the president thinks if you are unsettled, it helps him in a negotiation. he has a deal, and he wants you to be rattled by what he is doing because then he thinks he negotiates better. when you are setting pol...

Department who aren't sure what the policy is even going to be. so this is a little built of disorganization, although the state department says, look, tillerson has been in office for two weeks and we didn't book it until we knew that everything was going to be in place. but it points to maybe them not being 100% certain he would be confirmed. >> all right. thank you very much. richard haass author of "a world of disarray," also met with president trump during transition. the secretary of state rex tillerson staying at a sanitarium 30 minutes away from where the players are at the g-20 and bl...

No chief of staff. so, right now even the visitors' office is on hold because there is no one staffed there which means the white house, the people's house is not allowing tours. so, there is position she's been interviewing. we've heard there are announcements coming. we heard as soon as this week. however, right now she is staffless, which is unusual for first lady. michelle obama had a staff of 24 and they were mostly in place by the time she took over the white house. >> yeah and they had a whole agenda from let's move to working with veterans families. >> right. >> when are we going to se...

President obama's. they're billionaires and vast holdings. american people have a right to know if they're they have conflicts interest. >> jeff sessions is not a billionaire. cory, you're wrong about that one. second, what is wrong about people being successful. we had eight years of you know what. let's try successful people. who will no better how to run a massive, gigantic enterprise like the defense department or the state department or any of these departments but someone who has run large enterprises. people who do that in the private sector get paid a lot of money for it. steve: look a...