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Terminix. defenders of home. >> what's going on here? why aren't we going forward with the hearing? >> it begins and ends with the white house. i believe the chairman is following their orders. >> how he conducts himself with his members, when and where he shares things, our issues for him in the community and the house of representatives, not for us. >> as far as i know, they have done little to look through the documents. >> seems like there's not going to be a house report on intelligence on the russian meddling. i think we have to turn our eyes to the senate. because this is one of the big...

To see the environment and say i want to be in an environment but to recreate the white house here in new york city, it's not going to happen. >> it's 18 acres in washington. >> and washington is one building surrounded by gates, fences, the security, fencing is designed. over decades layers and layers have been put in there. trump tower structurally, what is it built out of? it is not going to be made out of the same thing. there are buses going by, trucks going by. we have to think of explosives, something driving something through. that building is not going to be able to with stand that bl...

Have been put in there. trump tower structurally, what is it built out of? it is not going to be made out of the same thing. there are buses going by, trucks going by. we have to think of explosives, something driving something through. that building is not going to be able to with stand that blast. >> and more than that there's a starbucks in the lobby. there is an atrium. it's a tourist stop. if he is going to want to keep a base in new york, at minimum aren't we going to be looking at planters down the middle of fifth avenue and kind of a sealed off zone? >> you have to create some time of ...

Clearly hillary clinton is using a little bit of it, not to the same extent, but it's effective messaging. and that's what we're watching play out here. >> governor dean, to that point, do you not think there's a certain risk in getting involved in this tit for tat with donald trump over this specific issue? given the fact that overall the receipt rock, the heated rhetoric could be used in a recruitment campaign whether or not there is specific video evidence. but engaging with the trump campaign on this. doesn't that sort of -- aren't we going for the lowest common denominator? >> i don't thi...

A little bit of it, not to the same extent, but it's effective messaging. and that's what we're watching play out here. >> governor dean, to that point, do you not think there's a certain risk in getting involved in this tit for tat with donald trump over this specific issue? given the fact that overall the rhetoric, the heated rhetoric could be used in a recruitment campaign whether or not there is specific video evidence. but engaging with the trump campaign on this. doesn't that just sort of -- aren't we going for the lowest common denominator? >> i don't think so, and i'll tell you why. if...