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Often without a due process as well. >> the taliban sort of see guantanamo as a rallying cry. they say this shows american hypocrisy. and i'm not going to say whether they're right or wrong. but my guards constantly talk to me about guantanamo. and they said we're going to treat you better than inmates are treated in guantanamo and you americans just seize people and put them there, you don't, you know, put them on trial. >> that was something when you were a prisoner your fal ban guards said to you? >> yes. and i'm not -- there are terrible things the taliban have done and i hate my captors a...

Hypocrisy. and i'm not going to say whether they're right or wrong. but my guards constantly talk to me about guantanamo. and they said we're going to treat you better than inmates are treated in guantanamo and you americans just seize people and put them there, you don't, you know, put them on trial. >> that was something when you were a prisoner your taliban guards said to you? >> yes. and i'm not -- there are terrible things the taliban have done and i hate my captors and always will. but worldwide it's a problem. and you talked about the rule of law in the beginning of the show. this is th...