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Do? they want to take control of the entire energy sector because they can do it when they're doing siege warfare like we're seeing in many cities around ukraine to take control of the power services. the more important point might be psychological, injecting fear into audiences. while we're trying to get to the bottom of what happened here last night, is it safe, i would bet russian disinformation broadcast back at home is saying this is the ukrainian's possibly using some sort of nuclear material or causing a blast. we saw it last week when chernobyl was taken back. the last thing i want to ...

An msnbc contributor, always my friend. great to talk to you. there was a potential obviously in moscow that russia would take heat for 48 hours and that's not happened and they are closing in on three sides here. they are having a lot more success in the south, the russian arm, than they are here. >> i'll start in kyiv to break it down. we've seen richard engel, he's in iropinion which is this area right here. >> yeah. >> ukranians have been coming in from the northwest. these armor formations, they are getting chewed up by the ukranian military and anti-tank weapons but at the same time the ...

Is their target. it's obvious at the very least that this is a much larger operation than it was initially sold 24 hours ago even to the russian public. let's not forget that what they said they were going to do was very clearly linked to the recognition of donetsk and luhansk. and their efforts to retake their claimed territory, that would be the entire region of donbas. where until 24 hours ago, most of our attention on the story from a day-to-day reporting perspective was actually focused. erin it's talking about these reports we're seeing reports of action, of strikes all across the countr...

He spent a little time talking about strategy there and this idea that so far they've been far more successful with their artillery versus their infantry. what to we make of the russian strategy so far and what might be next? >> i think some important points from over the weekend is despite all the russian armor divisions moving in, all the advances they make, they don't hold areas. in particular watch kharkiv and mykolaiv. they are really striking back at these russian columns. it remarkable to see how successful they've been. these are massive armor formations. we did not see that much activ...

Generally this area right in here. interesting suburb, 16 miles or so away from the heart of kyiv. but again, the same convoy, the same russian troops, these armor divisions, they're fighting without infantry on the ground around their armor convoys. this is particularly dangerous because you're seeing the ukrainians move in and around these armor formations, decimating these vehicles, essentially creating this log jam again. let's pop back out, though, let's look at the bigger picture. separately, what you are seeing is russia is making some advances. they're moving in, different directions i...