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Jim acosta, thank you very much, great reporting. all right, joining me live from seattle, washington, jill, you're obviously in the united states. we have to talk about russia, russia on this subject had always denied that any of these conversations about sanctions between michael flynn and the russian ambassador had taken place. now that he has resigned that calls the kremlin's position somewhat into question. so how embarrassing is it for moscow? >> i think it's embarrassing but i think they will probably trying to finesse that question, what they are saying is there were no discussions b...
That was the report. why? because they know sanctions are often tied with congress and there is a movement even among some republicans like john mccain not to lift those sanctions. so i don't think they were totally counting 100% that it would happen. that is one part of it. but you know another part i think is really important to watch is what happens to the nfc? because after all, the national security council is a crucial body for deciding the security posture, the policy of the united states. and giving information to the president to make his determination, if they get somebody stronger i...
Wouldn't it be nice if we had a better relationship? or maybe we might be able to do a deal by cooperating on fighting terrorism and then we could have a nuclear deal on the side. all of these ideas, they have really not formulated, to put it mildly. so the russians actually -- i would say the white house now may be able to put together a better, more cohesive policy. but at this point it really is a point of turmoil both for the kremlin and for the white house. >> yes, fascinating to see what happens, as you said, they have not met in person, it will be fascinating to see what happens when th...
Nasty, democrats are going to seize on this, and they're going to try to make it a bigger deal than what it actually is. i don't think there was actually a type of crime that was committed. so what do you investigate? the guy resigned. >> the democrats are going to want to investigate what the substance of the conversation was, were sanctions discussed? were there other phone calls? did he have a conversation with the russian ambassador about sanctions on his own? did he not run it by anybody, was it just casual conversations or did the president know about it? >> the reason why they're lookin...