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Officials that isis was looking to extend its reach with more of these lone wolf type attacks or to basically get more sympathyizers involved in their efforts. >> very much so. you can draw this to a pattern that has emerged, starting with the individual who carried out the attacks in france shortly after the "charlie hebdo" shootings. even though the two could not be directly linked, he got his weapons from belgium. then a couple of days after that attack, belgian authorities discovered in their country that there was a huge arms cache in a flat in the country in which those individuals were ...

With someone who he thinks can honor it -- we need to lock down those weapons first and have a presence of we'll call it an adult country rather than the civil war participantsdividing the spoils of that very lucrative arms cache. patti ann: yeah. what is the likelihood that a non-islamist state, a more democratic type of government will emerge from all of this? >> well, that's very difficult to say because as i referred to, one side being islamist/jihadist faction, the other side is very, very tightly aligned with the muslim brotherhood and always has been. and assad's father -- this is not, ...