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Won't seek nato membership. we need to say it won't be extended but we will maintain your article-5 obligations. it could stop the war. that's the one thing that putin won't give in on. nato on his border. >> tucker: i am not sure what we would get out of having ukraine in nato. i never understood why that's something we would want. >> yes. that's one of the things about nato expansion it has to improve nato for any member to come in. that's not the case. you are bringing in instability. that's bad for all 30 members. >> tucker: thank you very much for joining us. the polls show taken before t...

Ukrainians are doing pretty well. as general kellogg mentioned. here's something we have to watch, sean. is nato. the baltics states. we have to take putin's suggestions seriously. we are not ready, this article 5 thing we take it for granted. i anticipated in a war game in 2018 on a congressional commission appointed by john mccain. they took the baltics we have problems in nato. we have to have them stand up and provide the effective deterrents necessary. >> sean: i agree 1,000%.

Thing you know you have many thousands dead. now that shooting started in the ukraine it's impossible that americans could wind up getting hurt in eastern europe. we should prevent that but it would require wisdom and emotional control. all of which are never in abundant supply in washington. everyone is upset. mark warner the head of the senate intelligence committee announced that russia could be close to triggering what is known as article-5 of the nato alliance. if russia launches a cyber attack then every nato country

Something that would satisfy that desire. it may be that the military progress has been so frustrating to him that he's willing now, in a way he hadn't been before, to back down. it's possible he sees the international response and sees damage to the russian economy differently than he did a few days ago. but, you know, i wouldn't bet on it. >> so as you write this week, peter, the fate of millions of people are in the balance as presidents biden and putin test their understandings of one another, in dramatic fashion not seen since the cold war. something jumped out to me, it was right at the ...

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