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Country is that it's not just about ukraine, right? it is about the danger that -- to the nato countries that are around ukraine. it is about, as the president says, democracy versus autocracy, depends on what day of the week, he says both. so, he's pushing that, because there are effects of this war here at home. we talked for weeks and weeks about inflation, most importantly, gas prices going up and the american people are behind this president. we've seen his numbers tick up over and over in polls as the administration continues their push. and so what they wanted to do with this trip is, o...

Joined now by retired lieutenant general steph twitty. thank you for joining us on this. i appreciate it. a first question to you is, give me your assessment of that speech. a powerful moment for the president directly addressing vladimir putin calling him a criminal and a liar. what do you make of it? >> so first of all i thought it was a great speech by the president. probably the best speech that i heard from him since he's been in office. there are three things that i think that we should all take away from it. number one, the president reaffirmed u.s. commitment to article v of the nato t...

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That those two leaders needed to meet in order for there to be a viable peace, a viable cease-fire. meanwhile, we are hearing from ukrainians. they are talking about the kind of agreement that they have been asking for, and saying that they would adopt neutral status, so that is, i think, partly, an agreement not to join nato. they would adopt neutral status, but what they want is a new security framework, guaranteed by nato countries like the u.s., the uk, turkey, here, of course, france, and germany. they want that to be legally binding. they want their own people to vote for it. they want t...

S to donbas, where they have been enjoying relative success, militarily. because in kyiv, they're losing, losing badly. so they need to sell it to their domestic audience, as well. that's why they're pretending to negotiate. that's how people understand it on the ground in kyiv. >> how does moscow, how does russia guarantee security in these negotiations. we know that's one of the asks coming from ukraine. how do you expect that to happen? what do you expect the ukrainians want, the zelenskyy government wants when it comes to these security guarantees? >> well, basically, what's being discusse...