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I mean, frankly, people like brian sewell and waldemarjanuszczak have dismissed your work with contempt as having no artistic value. we've had a lot of help from our enemies, that's true. but — but i am interested in where this feeling of yours comes from, that you're outsiders and that you're against — that the whole of the art world is against you. we never said that. we have enormous support from the art world. good heavens! we're feted wherever we go. you didn't know that? here's a quote from you, "in the art world, we once said we were thatcherites. it was the worst thing we could say...

And do your hair nicely. for important occasions, yeah? and we believe that every single day of our life is important. and you call yourself a lower—class person... of course. ..but would it be fair to say that you have had a running battle with the art elite, the art establishment, because you think they don't give you the respect that you deserve? i mean, frankly, people like brian sewell and waldemar januszczak have dismissed your work with contempt as having no artistic value. we've had a lot of help from our enemies, that's true. but — but i am interested in where this feeling of your...

Put on a suit and tie and do your hair nicely. for important occasions, yeah? and we believe that every single day of our life is important. and you call yourself a lower—class person... of course. ..but would it be fair to say that you have had a running battle with the art elite, the art establishment, because you think they don't give you the respect that you deserve? i mean, frankly, people like brian sewell and waldemar januszczak have dismissed your work with contempt as having no artistic value. we've had a lot of help from our enemies, that's true. but — but i am interested in wher...

You dress properly and nicely. if you go to a wedding or a funeral or a christening or if you apply for a job or if you go for an interview, put on a suit and tie and do your hair nicely. for important occasions, yeah? and we believe that every single day of our life is important. and you call yourself a lower—class person... of course. ..but would it be fair to say that you have had a running battle with the art elite, the art establishment, because you think they don't give you the respect that you deserve? i mean, frankly, people like brian sewell and waldemar januszczak have dismissed yo...

School. let's be clear, this is not put up because of artistic value, they are put because they are political statements, the university trying to say how they feel about a certain issue and it's very wrong for a school that really seeks law professionals. >> you look at the fact that there's 67 victims of 9/11 and they were students and faculty of that school, how are they -- the families suppose today feel about something like this? >> to be honest i see this as spiking the football. we wouldn't have the mandalay bay putting a picture of paddock. this is a school which educates predominantly...