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Mention of this. this is one in which the facts are not unanimous. does that timing bother you from a historical perspective not only in the past but moving forward as well? >> yeah. fast and narrow is not a good recipe for impeachment. that's the case for johnson. narrow was the case for clinton. they tend not to survive. there's a foundation between your foundation and your height. this is the congressest structure you can build. this is the narrowest impeachment in history. johnson might actually be the fastest impeachment. johnson actually -- what happened to johnson was actually the fourt...

Go right ahead. >> i'd also caution you about obstruction. obstruction is a crime with meaning. it has elements. it has case authority. the record does not establish obstruction in this case. what my esteemed colleague said was certainly true. if you accept all of their presumptions, it would be obstruction. but impeachments have to be based on proof, not presumpti s presumptions. that's the problem when you move forward on this abbreviated schedule which has not been explained to me why you want to set the record for the fastest impeachment. fast is not good for impeachment. narrow, fast impe...

Crimes. that is even the democrats on the judiciary committee agreed that bill clinton had committed perjury. that's on the record and a federal judge later said it was perjury. in the case of nixon, the crimes were established. no one seriously disagreed with those crimes. johnson is the outlier because johnson was a trap door crime. they basically created a crime knowing that johnson wanted to replace secretary of war stanton. and johnson did because they had several trouble in the cabinet. so they created a trap door crime, waited for him to fire the secretary of war and then impeached him....

About obstruction. obstruction is a crime with meaning. it has elements. it has controlling case authority. the record does not establish obstruction in this case that is what my esteemed colleague said was true. if you accept all of their presumptions, it would be obstruction. but impeachments have to be based on proof, not presumptions. that's the problem when you move towards impeachment on this abbreviated schedule, that has not been explained to me why you want to set the record for the fastest impeachment. fast is not good for impeachme impeachment. narrow fast impeachments have failed. ...

Are not unanimous. there is not universal or bipartisan agreement on the facts and what they lead to. especially when there is exculpatory evidence that has been presented not in the schiff report, but in other reports, does that timing bother you from a historical's perspective, not only in the past, but moving forward as well? >> fast and narrow is not a good recipe for impeachment. that was the case with johnson, nero was the case with clinton. they do not survive and they collapse in front of the senate. there is a ratio between your foundation and your height. this is the highest structur...