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Every month, the assad government, using regular old conventional weapons. so it's not entirely clear to me that this would trigger an automatic response. there is no real obama doctrine here except for passivity, i'm afraid to say. >> helene, if we do get assad out, the united states, other allies, what then? >> well, that's the big -- that's part of the reason why the obama administration has done in the views of many so little toward getting president assad out, and that's because they are just really afraid. syria looks -- syria would be so much worse. you saw the break-up of iraq after th...

After all, they have been killing thousands of people every month, the assad government, using regular old conventional weapons. so it's not entirely clear to me that this would trigger an automatic response. there is no real obama doctrine here except for passivity, i'm afraid to say. >> helene, if we do get assad out, the united states, other allies, what then? >> well, that's the big -- that's part of the reason why the obama administration has done in the views of many so little toward getting president assad out, and that's because they are just really afraid. syria looks -- syria would b...