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Actually have air strike that is would protect civilians. it's what we did. john heilemann, you are saying no. >> i think the view of -- this is why i think he's saying what he's saying. they have the conclusion that air strikes is not enough and you can't do this the way you did libya. there's not really a formidable resistance to arm. it's not like in libya where there was a well formed opposition with a territory it was protecting. the syrian opposition is all over the place. it doesn't have a stronghold. the notion of a no-fly zone doesn't work. you are literally, the choice is, you want t...

>> no, they didn't. i don't think red sox are talking trash right now. >> did i not say if we finished ahead of the orioles it would be a good year. >> so, anyway, there's an awful lot going on here. mika, on saturday, on sunday, news of this absolutely horrific slaughter coming out of the syria as, you know, i have said on this show repeatedly, we have to be much more cautious and restraint with troop force than we have. not only in the bush administration, but the obama administration. at some point, we cannot allow to continue in syria what is going on in syria. at some point, it sounds lik...