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From investor after investor and heard this from alan greenspan, there's concern we are in a fed-induced asset bubble. meaning the federal reserve kept rates so low for so long, they pumped so much money into the system, stuart, that valuations just kept getting higher and higher and higher. so you had the market running up, simultaneously the economy was basically doing nothing. so you have 2% growth and a market that is on fire. somehow the two don't add up. >> is this a perfect storm in problems with the fed pumping out the money, keeping interest rates low for a long time. china on the bri...

Not something crazy that would cause the fed to raise rates. what happens when you raise rates? people -- i mean, the market moves immediately, but the technical thing is people start putting their money in the bank and in bonds rather that be stocks -- than stocks. heather: do you want an economy that grows moderately rather than gangbusters? >> well, you're asking me two questions. is this a good economy? i would say, no, and that's why we we have this economy which isn't growing gangbusters. but if you're part of the rich 1% and you've got a few bucks and you want to place it somewhere, we'...

If the fed wasn't holding it back how much higher would it be? fed is the problem. >> older folks who are afraid to play the stock market don't have anything to do with money. now you put it in a bank account and you lose money because of inflation. >> you need a microsoft to look at returns. they are so small. to john's point, if the money is away it will get devalued because the value is dropping. it will get hurt. that is changing the number of ounces in a pound when the dollar is hurt. fed is in state of emergency. economic hype con dryiac. they are -- hypochondriac. but i'm not sure that ...

The timing. people are going back to work, they are not paid enough money to survive without it. >> ehear what you are saying. we have a flat tire of the u.s. economy where the u.s. government is throwing banana peel in form of rule or barbed wire taxes for companies that create jobs. we want to help the poor, get them a job. >> we agree we are a better community, better country when the folks don't want to take welfare. that is the problem. the spirit of america i think is being destroyed. coming up next, five years after the last financial bubble popped, new worries that the fed may be creat...

>> david: well, as the buddy yogi berra said, "it's déjà vu all over again." five years ago this weekend, financial meltdown hit when lehman brothers went bankrupt as the housing brother blew up. many blame the bubble on the federal reserve, keeping interest rates artificially too low for too long. the fed is at it again. keeping the stimulus rate low with stimulus plan on steroids. could it cause another bubble about to blow up. this time the stock market itself? >> i think we are at a risk for a bubble. but they don't know to bring it in real estate or the stock market. if you see the stoc...