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Than 30 years and when he -- when the production managers from "rust" reached out to him in late september, he was at first really thrilled because in his long career he had never worked on a western. so he thought, wow, you know, this is my opportunity and alec baldwin on this film, i mean, he thought it was just, wow, this would be a great opportunity. so he immediately jumped on t he had conversations with the production managers over the course of four days, and he found that their answers were kind of evasive, he wanted -- this was really sort of to cut to the chase, he wanted to have an ...

Instead, they wanted to combine what he calls two very important jobs into one, the armorer as well as the assistant prop master. take a listen to what he told nbc. >> i turned the job opportunity down on "rust" because i felt it was completely unsafe. i impressed upon them that there were great concerns about that and they really didn't -- didn't really respond to my concerns about that. >> reporter: and while he had those concerns, he's not the only one. we also know there were people who were actually working on the "rust" production who had concerns about safety as well onset, alisyn and v...

That's what i have been doing. doctor, thank you very much for all of the advice. . >> thank you, doctor. >> thank you. we are learning multiple major red flags on the set of "rust" in the days before alec baldwin shot and killed cinematographer halyna hutchins. detectives seized spent casings, ammunition boxes, loose ammunition, also ammo in a fanny pack. also a veteran prop master is coming forward saying that he rejected a job offer to work on the film because of multiple safety concerns. they included the decision to merge the jobs of armorer and assistant prop master. >> i turned th...

My cart. >> the difference between a bank and a live -- blank or a live round is simple. >> it takes seconds and there is no reason not to do it. >> the veteran prop master says he sensed warning signs before filming began. >> he says one big red flag that was producers took two distinct and challenging jobs. assistant prop master and armorer and combined them into one. >> i impressed that there was great concerns and they did not respond to my concerns about

Member of the sound crew. but industry experts say only the armorer or prop master should be handling weapons on the set, not the assistant director. >> i will be honest with you, the a.d. would have a broken finger if he picked up a gun off my cart. that does not happen. >> armorer clay van sickle said the difference between a blank or live or dummy round is easy to spot. >> i would click through six times so everybody could hear nothing happens. it's literally that simple and it takes seconds and there's no reason not to do if 2. >> reporter: the veteran prop master said he sensed warning si...