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Animals immediate full free and absolute pardon in 1974, later presidents might hat not a felt so license to break the law. >> michael joins me now as does jill wine-banks, legal analyst who served as one of the assistant prosecutors during the watergate scandal. thank you both for coming back on the show. michael, let's start with that tweet that you wrote. do you really believe that had he not pardon nixon, trump would not have felt so emboldened to break the law? this is trump we're talking about. a man who doesn't give a dam about precedent or norms. >> i do and my good friend jill from ch...

War protesters, nixon infamously replied, well when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal. nbc presidential historian recently on twitter quote, had present for not granted nixon animals immediate full free and absolute pardon in 1974, later presidents might hat not a felt so license to break the law. >> michael joins me now as does jill wine-banks, legal analyst who served as one of the assistant prosecutors during the watergate scandal. thank you both for coming back on the show. michael, let's start with that tweet that you wrote. do you really believe that had he not par...

Right. they want to go home and look themselves in the mirror. michael cohen has the credibility of a pipe cleaner. he's somebody that no one can rest a case on. alvin bragg said previously based on one of his assistant prosecutors own comments, that -- this guy acts like he's a movie star. he's a felon bankrupt, a convicted liar and a purgerer. he couldn't say great things about donald trump every time he got in front of a camera. he couldn't way to say how great he was. now he's trying to write a book and get his book sold. putting him aside for a second, bob costello has no axe to grind her...

Right. they want to go home and look themselves in the mirror. michael cohen has the credibility of a pipe cleaner. he's somebody that no one can rest a case on. alvin bragg said previously based on one of his assistant prosecutors own comments, that -- this guy acts like he's a movie star. he's a felon bankrupt, a convicted liar and a purgerer. he couldn't say great things about donald trump every time he got in front of a camera. he couldn't way to say how great he was. now he's trying to write a book and get his book sold. putting him aside for a second, bob costello has no axe to grind her...

People. again, this law regardless of how it's enacted or if it's upheld will not prevent abortion. it will prevent safe abortion, and it will really impact vulnerable communities more than any other. and those are precisely the people that we work every single day to protect in our office. i have about 100 assistant prosecutors that work for me, and they don't want to prosecute doctors for performing abortions. >> karen mcdonald, we appreciate having you on this morning. >> thank you. still ahead, another story we're following. just stunning new images of a galaxy far, far away. this thanks...