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That's a ridiculous statement. that's a ridiculous statement. >> put it in context here, governor. i mean, i understand, yeah, if you're going to apply it to the hurricane, yeah, it's ridiculous. >> ridiculous to anything. apply it to social security. >> apply it to government that doesn't touch on the safety net. >> how about social security? >> what did i just say? >> governor perry says associate security is a ponzi scheme. >> if i could make my point and you can say whatever you want. i have my issues with social security. that aside. the broader question is, you guys tend to look at, gove...

Out of the nondefense discretionary budget. when do you stand up with serious change in the trajectory of the budget? >> i think they will do that. if it's going to happen, if will come out of the energy of the newly elected republicans. there is so much work that has to be done, start with rolling back the new commitments that can't be fulfilled. which we did with the vote on obama care. but the fact of the matter is, on associate security, just let it be voluntary. i mean medicare, simple little things. why can't the united states government allow dick armey a 71-year-old fellow who makes a ...

The extent don't increase spending. if you want a dollar for high speed rail, subtract a dollar or more somewhere else. >> bill: i don't think we can hole lighten at $14 trillion. i think you have to get it down. notices one on one any more. >> the money is social security, medicare, medicaid and defense. those are 60% of the budget, let's have a serious conversation as he started last night about what to do there. paul ryan could make a serious contribution. i don't agree with the vouchers on medicare and privatization of associate security but he is serious about solving the problems and we ...

The extent don't increase spending. if you want a dollar for high speed rail, subtract a dollar or more somewhere else. >> bill: i don't think we can hole lighten at $14 trillion. i think you have to get it down. notices one on one any more. >> the money is social security, medicare, medicaid and defense. those are 60% of the budget, let's have a serious conversation as he started last night about what to do there. paul ryan could make a serious contribution. i don't agree with the vouchers on medicare and privatization of associate security but he is serious about solving the problems and we ...

The extent don't increase spending. if you want a dollar for high speed rail, subtract a dollar or more somewhere else. >> bill: i don't think we can hole lighten at $14 trillion. i think you have to get it down. notices one on one any more. >> the money is social security, medicare, medicaid and defense. those are 60% of the budget, let's have a serious conversation as he started last night about what to do there. paul ryan could make a serious contribution. i don't agree with the vouchers on medicare and privatization of associate security but he is serious about solving the problems and we ...