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Seems farfetched or can seem farfetched, it's also kind of hard to imagine the motivation for murdaugh to kill his wife and his son, that he was in financial straits, and he was trying to cover it up, and that's why he committed these murders. i think it's one thing to kill your wife. we have seen so many instances of this, it's awful obviously. but a father killing his son, blowing his brains out as they've said in this trial, is that going to be harder for a jury to swallow, even if a case like this. >> this is why i believe the state has made a misstep with this financial evidence. imagine ...

Iphone data, which even records how many steps someone walks, although there was testimony that's not completely accurate. and then also the on star data of the vehicle. they tdidn't get the gps data o maggie's phone because they didn't process it correctly in the correct bag. but what he is going over and over again is that timeline. and being down there at the shed. but he's also given an explanation, saying, look. my partners told me not to talk. i knew i was the last one to see them. my pockets are filled with pills. and, yeah. i got paranoid and i told a lie. the jury, that's all that mat...

Investigating the facts of the case, >> yes. >> all right. you were involved in gathering less say telemetry data from automobiles, correct? >> telemetry data like you presented in this courtroom this week? >> yeah. you never did that? >> i've never had a case specifically where the type data that ya'll have presented in this case that i've used. i've had data from automobiles. i've had on star data, data from the black box. telemetry data? i don't believe i've had one of those. >> but on star and black box data, correct? >> moore so the black box event reporter. mean times in a wreck, the eve...

Correct? >> the ups case i handled? >> yes. >> yes, sir. >> as part of that, developing those types of cases, you were involved in investigating the facts of the case, correct? >> yes. >> all right. you were involved in gathering data from automobiles, correct? >> data like you presented in this courtroom this week? >> yeah. you never did that? >> i never had a case specifically where the type data that y'all presented in this case that i've used. i've had data from automobiles. >> from their computers? >> on star data, data from a black box, but -- >> on star and black box? >> more so the bla...